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		<title>By: Julian</title>
		<link>http://blag.xkcd.com/2008/04/22/hooray-robots/comment-page-5/#comment-31917</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 02:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just turn all the wheels parallel so that two inline wheels are the propulsion and that the two wheels to the side are the turning mechanism. otherwise the robot would only have a 180 degree range of forward or backward propulsion, this would negate the webcam/rangefinder (much cheaper) since it would only be looking forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just turn all the wheels parallel so that two inline wheels are the propulsion and that the two wheels to the side are the turning mechanism. otherwise the robot would only have a 180 degree range of forward or backward propulsion, this would negate the webcam/rangefinder (much cheaper) since it would only be looking forward.</p>
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		<title>By: Hooray robots xkcd &#124; Outdoor Ceiling Fans</title>
		<link>http://blag.xkcd.com/2008/04/22/hooray-robots/comment-page-5/#comment-28676</link>
		<dc:creator>Hooray robots xkcd &#124; Outdoor Ceiling Fans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 11:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hooray robots xkcd   Posted by root 5 hours ago (http://blag.xkcd.com)        My background is industrial automation so i 39 m using technology i 39 m familiar with r 39 nway says june 9 2008 at 10 34 pm i 39 m a big fan i built one with a friend a few years ago comment i also have no image processing experience xkcd is proudly pow        Discuss&#160;  &#124;&#160; Bury &#124;&#160;    News &#124; Hooray robots xkcd [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Hooray robots xkcd   Posted by root 5 hours ago (<a href="http://blag.xkcd.com" rel="nofollow">http://blag.xkcd.com</a>)        My background is industrial automation so i 39 m using technology i 39 m familiar with r 39 nway says june 9 2008 at 10 34 pm i 39 m a big fan i built one with a friend a few years ago comment i also have no image processing experience xkcd is proudly pow        Discuss&nbsp;  |&nbsp; Bury |&nbsp;    News | Hooray robots xkcd [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bigbuilding</title>
		<link>http://blag.xkcd.com/2008/04/22/hooray-robots/comment-page-5/#comment-24375</link>
		<dc:creator>Bigbuilding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The site really has the fantastic design! Thanks for sharing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The site really has the fantastic design! Thanks for sharing!</p>
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		<title>By: cues</title>
		<link>http://blag.xkcd.com/2008/04/22/hooray-robots/comment-page-5/#comment-24373</link>
		<dc:creator>cues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is really cool!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is really cool!</p>
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		<title>By: Barby</title>
		<link>http://blag.xkcd.com/2008/04/22/hooray-robots/comment-page-5/#comment-24371</link>
		<dc:creator>Barby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don’t know what it is, but the real answer couldn’t possibly be as interesting as this discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t know what it is, but the real answer couldn’t possibly be as interesting as this discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://blag.xkcd.com/2008/04/22/hooray-robots/comment-page-5/#comment-23045</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crap. If i&#039;d just hit page up ONE time, I&#039;d&#039;ve been able to see that Melanthios beat me there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crap. If i&#8217;d just hit page up ONE time, I&#8217;d've been able to see that Melanthios beat me there.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://blag.xkcd.com/2008/04/22/hooray-robots/comment-page-5/#comment-23044</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I&#039;d normally check to see if this had been suggested, this page is way too long for that. I&#039;m far from an expert, considering I know next to nothing about this, but it seems to me that the turning problem, at least, could be solved by keeping the &quot;front&quot; and &quot;back&quot; wheels as are, and instead rotating the side wheels 90 degrees, such that they&#039;re perpendicular to the front wheels with reference to the y-axis.

As for the camera, I have a completely different idea. Unless it&#039;s going to be used for photography, the robot doesn&#039;t need an image, it can use a wireframe representation of the world. If we use sonic imaging, we could put the sensor inside the shell. Naturally, the shell would still interfere, but sound waves would still get though, and the interference caused by the ball is predictable and can be compensated for in the program, provided we run and implement the acoustic models properly.


On the other hand, I have no idea what I&#039;m talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I&#8217;d normally check to see if this had been suggested, this page is way too long for that. I&#8217;m far from an expert, considering I know next to nothing about this, but it seems to me that the turning problem, at least, could be solved by keeping the &#8220;front&#8221; and &#8220;back&#8221; wheels as are, and instead rotating the side wheels 90 degrees, such that they&#8217;re perpendicular to the front wheels with reference to the y-axis.</p>
<p>As for the camera, I have a completely different idea. Unless it&#8217;s going to be used for photography, the robot doesn&#8217;t need an image, it can use a wireframe representation of the world. If we use sonic imaging, we could put the sensor inside the shell. Naturally, the shell would still interfere, but sound waves would still get though, and the interference caused by the ball is predictable and can be compensated for in the program, provided we run and implement the acoustic models properly.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I have no idea what I&#8217;m talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: siddhc</title>
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		<dc:creator>siddhc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 06:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow !!...I really liked your post...good work...do check out my blog at http://robots4all.blogspot.com and write in your comments there !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow !!&#8230;I really liked your post&#8230;good work&#8230;do check out my blog at <a href="http://robots4all.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://robots4all.blogspot.com</a> and write in your comments there !!</p>
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		<title>By: Fotiadis110</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fotiadis110</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 03:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the ultimate cool for the camera on top is the hovering on air approach. importantly no magnets would be needed if the batteries running the fan levitating the camera at the top are held about 135o around the sphere with enough of them to allow the center of gravity to be somewhere below the middle of the ball, meaning any &#039;slipping&#039; forwards, backwards or to the side would be corrected by the motion of the center of mass.
Best of all these arms can include &#039;touch&#039; sensors allowing the ball to know if it touches a wall.

The rotation of the ball would have a near 0 effect, so only momentum of the motion will be a problem... That and how to make the arms removable so the main sphere can be opened.

BTW in my experience laptops can survive quite well and keep cool as long as their energy consumption remains low, so the ball should keep cool quite a while, just don&#039;t leave it in the sun.


As for the stairs problem you aren&#039;t being creative enough... build a ball elevator controlled from the &#039;primary console&#039; or server, when the ball wants to go up, roll into the special prongs, up it goes and it&#039;s released again!

Just avoid rolling DOWN the stairs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the ultimate cool for the camera on top is the hovering on air approach. importantly no magnets would be needed if the batteries running the fan levitating the camera at the top are held about 135o around the sphere with enough of them to allow the center of gravity to be somewhere below the middle of the ball, meaning any &#8217;slipping&#8217; forwards, backwards or to the side would be corrected by the motion of the center of mass.<br />
Best of all these arms can include &#8216;touch&#8217; sensors allowing the ball to know if it touches a wall.</p>
<p>The rotation of the ball would have a near 0 effect, so only momentum of the motion will be a problem&#8230; That and how to make the arms removable so the main sphere can be opened.</p>
<p>BTW in my experience laptops can survive quite well and keep cool as long as their energy consumption remains low, so the ball should keep cool quite a while, just don&#8217;t leave it in the sun.</p>
<p>As for the stairs problem you aren&#8217;t being creative enough&#8230; build a ball elevator controlled from the &#8216;primary console&#8217; or server, when the ball wants to go up, roll into the special prongs, up it goes and it&#8217;s released again!</p>
<p>Just avoid rolling DOWN the stairs.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 03:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Steve Baker: As an example, this drive mechanism is used in the Tyco Terrain Twister. 
http://www.rcmania.com/reviews/tyco-terrain-twister/index.php

Re: Jason: I think you have a good idea with the NASA robots.
According to PopSci Sept. 08, page 28, they are inflatable with photovoltaic shells and fit into compartments on the new rover, Mars Research Laboratory. These also have cameras that pop out of the axle to get a look outside.
According to Wikipedia, however, the rover is called Mars Science Laboratory and there is no mention of the scouts.
EDIT: I believe this is similar to what Matthew Ellis links above.

Re: Kannon:
&gt;Also, because my electric motor knowlege is a bit rusty, is there a motor that
&gt;you could easily use in a system that the shells could rotate easily with the
&gt;motor unpowered, and use the motor to either add speed, or as a brake?
You can use a standard DC motor with an H-bridge for this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-bridge

My ideas:
1. Take a sphere with vents in it, covered in spikes in an even pattern. Put the guts inside here. Take a sphere of elastic material and put it over the spikes. Then add another organ to the machine, an air compressor and tank—lungs if you will. This reduces the air pressure inside the spheres and causes the elastic sphere to mold over the spikes to provide traction underwater or to climb over small thresholds. Contrary to common sense (mine at least), I don&#039;t think this would decrease buoyancy. The average density inside should remain the same unless the outer sphere contracts significantly.

2. Take the two-balls idea, with the mecanum platform. Make both opaque white in the visible spectrum, but transparent to IR so the camera can see out from inside the head. Put bright multicolored LEDs inside the body so that when the head gets knocked off, it can say, &quot;Help! I&#039;ve lost my head!&quot; or similar and the LEDs can light up to show where the head should be put. The arm inside could be articulated or just telescoping and semicircular to move the head forward and back. One could also drill recesses all over the main ball and put light gray furniture-feet in them to get a better grip, but this could interfere with the LEDs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Steve Baker: As an example, this drive mechanism is used in the Tyco Terrain Twister.<br />
<a href="http://www.rcmania.com/reviews/tyco-terrain-twister/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.rcmania.com/reviews/tyco-terrain-twister/index.php</a></p>
<p>Re: Jason: I think you have a good idea with the NASA robots.<br />
According to PopSci Sept. 08, page 28, they are inflatable with photovoltaic shells and fit into compartments on the new rover, Mars Research Laboratory. These also have cameras that pop out of the axle to get a look outside.<br />
According to Wikipedia, however, the rover is called Mars Science Laboratory and there is no mention of the scouts.<br />
EDIT: I believe this is similar to what Matthew Ellis links above.</p>
<p>Re: Kannon:<br />
&gt;Also, because my electric motor knowlege is a bit rusty, is there a motor that<br />
&gt;you could easily use in a system that the shells could rotate easily with the<br />
&gt;motor unpowered, and use the motor to either add speed, or as a brake?<br />
You can use a standard DC motor with an H-bridge for this. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-bridge" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-bridge</a></p>
<p>My ideas:<br />
1. Take a sphere with vents in it, covered in spikes in an even pattern. Put the guts inside here. Take a sphere of elastic material and put it over the spikes. Then add another organ to the machine, an air compressor and tank—lungs if you will. This reduces the air pressure inside the spheres and causes the elastic sphere to mold over the spikes to provide traction underwater or to climb over small thresholds. Contrary to common sense (mine at least), I don&#8217;t think this would decrease buoyancy. The average density inside should remain the same unless the outer sphere contracts significantly.</p>
<p>2. Take the two-balls idea, with the mecanum platform. Make both opaque white in the visible spectrum, but transparent to IR so the camera can see out from inside the head. Put bright multicolored LEDs inside the body so that when the head gets knocked off, it can say, &#8220;Help! I&#8217;ve lost my head!&#8221; or similar and the LEDs can light up to show where the head should be put. The arm inside could be articulated or just telescoping and semicircular to move the head forward and back. One could also drill recesses all over the main ball and put light gray furniture-feet in them to get a better grip, but this could interfere with the LEDs.</p>
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