Oops (delayed post)

In today’s comic, I have the rain-stick thing happening in Jaynestown, when it actually happens in Our Mrs. Reynolds.  I lose three nerd points.

When writing the comic, I actually compiled a list of references to wood in Firefly by searching the scripts. They included Badger serving Jayne wood alcohol and Inara likening Mal’s sword technique to ‘chopping wood’ (both in Shindig). I should put it on Wikipedia so nobody has to duplicate my efforts.

Note: I actually wrote this post from the road early this morning to try to stave off the subsequent flood of email, but in my sleepiness I accidentally published it as a “page” instead of a “post” (a Wordpress distinction that’s confused me before). So, all told, this was not a good day for my internet skills.  I think I’ve dropped from 1337 to 1334, maybe 1335 tops.

210 Responses to “Oops (delayed post)”

  1. Sir Albert Gore Says:

    I’m pretty sure nobody who writes/draws XKCD can drop below 1390.

  2. glasnt Says:

    Its ok. We forgive you :p

  3. Chris Adams Says:

    Why should the fictional XKCD version of Wikipedia be more accurate than the real one?

  4. R3P1N5 Says:

    You are most certainly forgiven… in fact, i didn’t even notice :S

  5. Lukos Says:

    I like how they had to lock the wood article because so many xkcd fans were trying to add In Popular Culture sections. Excellent work.

  6. Matthew Hall Says:

    Okay thats good to know. I had myself doubting my own Firefly knowledge there.

  7. Bobob Says:

    I thought the Firefly thing was a meta-joke referencing the inaccuracy of Wikipedia.

  8. Shadow Says:

    Indeed. How impossibly win is it that you got wikipedia to lock an article? The world shall grow to fear the power of your internet army. We live to serve my liege.

  9. Another words... Says:

    –OR– perhaps you AREN’T required to always to have a batting average of 1.000. Just a thought.

  10. Oskar Says:

    @Shadow: it’s extremely easy for someone with an audience to get an article locked. It’s not something you should be all that proud of, it’s really no big deal, we handle far worse every day. In a few days all you lemmings will have moved on, and then it’ll be unlocked again and no one will remember a thing. Wikipedia’s getting pretty good at dealing with this stuff by now

  11. Geeky Comic Says:

    Not a real comment, just letting you know about my unpopular comic.

  12. Mr. Gustafson Says:

    Heh, the continued overuse of “Trivia” and “Popular Culture” sections is fairly controversial among many Wikipedians.

    Oh, and not only does http://xkcd.com/445/ work reading the rightmost panels straight down, but each row of four also works backwards. It also works going diagonally (left to right/top to bottom).

  13. denelian Says:

    now that its fixed, take out the reference to it being wrong, and somehow it will have never happened…

    well, probably not. depending on how much stress you apply to this timeline. but then the blogoshpere never implodes, and i never came back to tell you, so you made the mistake

    oh wait. i got lost in that temporal paradoc. carry on.

  14. Kiki Says:

    Oskar said:
    > Blah blah blah, Mr. Blog Reader.

    Hmph!

    Of course all these problems were solved with the awesome http://citizendium.org and its real names policy.
    No need WASTING TIME with wikicopping or however you Poopoopedians call it.

  15. Andrew Hsieh Says:

    Hey, http://xkcd.com/445/ also works backwards diagonally too, for both sides! Wow. Did not see that coming.

    Also, hi.

  16. Kiki Says:

    Andrew Hsieh:
    Uppermost square is 1, leftmost square is a.
    Read this one: 4a 4b 4c 3d. Or… 4a 4b 4c 4d 3d. Or maybe even 4a 4b 4c 4d 3d 2d 1d.

  17. Salubri Says:

    Firstly: Love xkcd (my first comment so I thought I’d mention it)

    I also thought you were being ironic… Wikipedia is good but not infallible! I should have known that xkcd was also not infallible!

    @Oskar See, calling xkcd readers lemmings (even if only the ones who tried to add a Popular Culture section to the “Wood” Article) is one way to alienate and distance people! See here for a clue: http://www.xkcd.com/438/

    Love to all!

  18. Adacore Says:

    I would’ve just assumed it was a subtle comment on wikipedia inaccuracy, if I’d noticed. Which I didn’t.

  19. arkleseizure Says:

    Having my gf catch this was the hottest thing ever.

  20. Balath Says:

    Far, far under 9000, Mr. Munroe.

  21. Phlebas Says:

    Those rabid wikipedians or whatever crack me the fuck up. Somehow it’s like watching retarded children play in a band. You congratulate them on their efforts, but deep inside, you know how sad it is. And the problem is, they can never grasp it by themselves.

  22. steve Says:

    “arkleseizure Says:
    July 8th, 2008 at 6:38 am
    Having my gf catch this was the hottest thing ever.”

    you mean:

    Catching my gf reading xkcd.com was the hottest thing ever… especially when its about wood.

  23. marcos Says:

    I was pretty sure it was a joke on Wikipedia… but, after a second tough, fictional facts are never wrong there.

  24. Jamie Says:

    Phlebas wins.

  25. eitje Says:

    Have you noticed any of the yahoo commercials on TV that tell you to search for a particular thing or name for more information?

    I remember why you did that with the algorithm. Ahhh, good times.

  26. Chaotix Says:

    All I really want, is to be able to scroll the strip down and find out where wood was referenced in Battlestar Galactica…

  27. NinjaBadle Says:

    I would also like to know where there was wood in Battlestar Galactica

  28. Blake Stacey Says:

    A while back, Neil Gaiman wrote a book called The Dream Hunters, set in the world of the Sandman series. The afterword claimed that it was an adaptation of a Japanese folk tale discovered in a dusty book Gaiman uncovered while researching to prepare for translating Princess Mononoke. Later, he admitted that it was an ancient Japanese folk tale that he himself had invented. Then, last December, he found the Wikipedia article on The Dream Hunters and said on his blag, “I learned from Wikipedia that Sandman: The Dream Hunters was actually based on Pu Songling’s Strange Stories From A Chinese Studio, which I thought I ought to read.”

    I inserted that into the Wikipedia article, but the world hasn’t imploded yet.

  29. Mark Murphy Says:

    ^ Win.

  30. NOT YOUR GIRLFRIEND Says:

    you didn’t mention your girlfriend in this blog post? I’m guessing you just forgot

  31. cj Says:

    Anyone else notice that in http://www.xkcd.com/445 “4a 3b 2c 1d” is the essentially same storyline as “1a 1b 1c 1d” ?

  32. Raymond Says:

    Please tell us about Megan, Mr. Munroe.

  33. Katie Says:

    I did, cj. =)

    Great strip. Two Wikipedia protections in such a short span!
    I’m still reeling over the many interpretations of #445.

    4a 4b 3b 2b 1b 3c 2c 1c 1d

    If the paths get any more confusing, I’m going to have to consider #445 a game comparable to Boggle.

  34. Kobra Says:

    At least we now know Wikipedia’s stance on contraceptives; they protected their Wood!

    (Ba Dum Ksh!)

  35. The Alt Text Should Have Read Says:

    Uh huh-uh-huh-huh-uh, you defined wood.

  36. ConMan Says:

    It’s not the average xkcd reader who’s a lemming, it’s the people who see their favourite webcomic, comedian, television show, or whatever, make a joke about Wikipedia (particularly about vandalising Wikipedia), and immediately go there to try and incorporate that joke into an article. If I were the sort of person who actually wanted to vandalise Wikipedia I’d make sure I was a hell of a lot more original than that.

    And all it does is provide more ammo for the people who want to expunge all pop culture references from Wikipedia anyway, since their argument is exactly that - it’s far too easy to take pop culture references to ridiculous extremes.

  37. James A. Calwell III Says:

    I hope you’re aware that Wikipedia hates your guts after Monday’s comic.

  38. Some Random Guy Says:

    My favourite storyline would have to be
    4d 3c 2b 1a

  39. Merus Says:

    James, Randall writes webcomics. Wikipedia already hates his guts.

  40. Nekemancer Says:

    1A 1B 2A 2B 3A 3B 4A 4B 1D 2C 3C 2D is probably my favorite so far.

  41. Gavrilo Says:

    ouch… I eventually found something in the blag that I didn’t understand, and wasn’t able to find in wikipedia…

    could anyone explain me the meaning of:

    “think I’ve dropped from 1337 to 1334, maybe 1335 tops.” ?? What are tops? anything to do with leet?

  42. Zombie Says:

    @Oskar

    You, and other admins like you, are the reason I no longer edit wikipedia articles. All you need is a thin layer of beaucracy and you will get people who appoint themselves G_d of the world. What gives you any right to dictate what goes on wikipedia other than that moderators tag? Admins and mods on wikipedia are usually the worst form of trolls whose policical bias and means allow them to close off articles of value (I’m look at you locked down aXXo article).

    Just know this, next time I find a PHP vulnerability your power will disappear with your account.

  43. Stuart Says:

    Gavrilo: Yes, it’s a leet joke - essentially subtracted a couple of points from your ‘1337ness’ would leave you with only 1334 or 1335 (1334 = 1337 - 3)

    Nekemancer: made me chuckle :-)

  44. dbmag9 Says:

    Gavrilo:

    It’s just a humerous implementation of fictitious ‘geek points’. The idea is he started with 1337 (which, as you noticed, is leet for ‘leet) but due to his mistake in the comic he’s lost a few, bringing him down to 1334, or perhaps 1335 at the most. ‘Tops’ is just a colloquial way of saying ‘at the most’.

  45. Jake Says:

    i have to say the talk page on the wikipedia wood article is a brilliant read, wikipedia cant seem to take a joke

  46. Barts Says:

    Gavrilo, it means “1335 at most”, not “1335 unidentified ‘tops’ objects”.

    Cheers,

    Barts

  47. fireguy15207 Says:

    Oh thank goodness you saw the error of your ways, Mr. Munroe. I caught it immediately and was about to email you, but I couldn’t find the email address :(

    Anyway, good job with the comic, I look forward to it every other day :)

  48. eitje Says:

    Science Party!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBCmt_pJTRA

  49. dr_koopon Says:

    Well, I’m glad you found and fixed the firefly mistake, but I’ve still got issues with the BSG reference… I can’t think the year is anything but “2004″ but there was no BSG in 2004. The miniseries was in ‘03, and the first season of the true series was in ‘05.

    Also, other then the forests of caprica, what wood is there in BSG??

    But regardless, well done on yet more good humor.

  50. skittledog Says:

    It’s listed as a 2004 series on - guess where - wikipedia.

    I agonised over the BSG thing, caught in constant internal debate with myself over whether a) there is no wood used in BSG, Randall knows this and intentionally left it off the bottom of the page so we’d all doubt ourselves or b) there is a usage of wood which he remembers because he’s cleverer than me and I am right to be doubting myself.

    Then I remembered a certain log cabin that was never built. So now I’m happy because that had a potential existence but not a real one and therefore satisfies either of the above scenarios…

  51. starwed Says:

    >In today’s comic, I have the rain-stick thing happening in Jaynestown, when it actually happens in Our Mrs. Reynolds. I lose three nerd points.

    I tried to click on the edit button to fix this, but a yellow box got in the way.

  52. beachton Says:

    Rainsticks aren’t made of wood!

  53. Skree Says:

    Some Random Guy

    I think I’ve fallen in love with the comic you’ve worked out there :P

    Pure genius, I tell you, pure genius…

  54. Lackluster Says:

    @skittledog: What about Adama’s model ship? I do believe he made that out of wood

  55. Chiya Says:

    Beachton: Of course you’re right, rainsticks are made of rain.

    I didn’t notice the mistake, I was picturing the floral bonnet bit and didn’t even stop to think that it wasn’t Jaynestown it was Our Mrs Reynolds. Shocking, I know.

  56. skittledog Says:

    @Lackluster: ohhh, dumb me. Yes, good call. (Except where does he keep getting more wood from, every time it gets smashed up?)

    One of my friends did also point out that we have to assume paper is made from wood and thus there are rather a lot of octagonal bits lying around the place…

  57. Richard Says:

    heh. In the Kingdom of Loathing they have a 1335 HaXx0r. :)

  58. Moser Says:

    I was going to make an “over 9000″ joke, but i got beaten to it:

    Balath Says:
    July 8th, 2008 at 6:51 am

    Far, far under 9000, Mr. Munroe.

    Hats off to Balath. He gets 2 nerd points.

  59. Lackluster Says:

    What if paper in the BSG universe is made of discarded human hair?

  60. Amazazing Says:

    ^
    that would be silly

  61. JediBear Says:

    Wait. What’s the significance of 9000?

  62. Al Capwn Says:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=2ImuoLpwTag

    That’s the significance of 9000, JediBear

  63. Aaron A. Says:

    I’d assumed that the comic was a comment on one of two things:
    1a) The unbearable triviality and nerdosity of “In Popular Culture” sections,
    1b) the fact that few people can leave an IPC section alone without adding their own favorite geektastic reference, or
    2) That Munroe and xkcd have a rabidly loyal fanbase who will follow him into the depths of hell.

    I knew as soon as I saw the comic that somebody, indeed several somebodies, would have already tried it

    – A.

  64. Skyer Says:

    Is it weird that while I am among those who would follow xkcd into, as Aaron so eloquently put it, into the depths of hell, I only just now found out the name of the guy who makes it? (that is who Munroe is, right? The author of xkcd?)

  65. Not_a_spambot Says:

    @skittledog

    Also, I believe that the handle of Helena Cain’s razor was made of wood.

    Also, didn’t boomer have a set of wooden Elephants that were given to her by her nonexistent parents?

  66. eleven Says:

    @Nekemancer: LOL, that one’s pretty much my favourite too.

  67. Ian Says:

    the best story for 445 is read counter clockwise starting at the bottom left corner.

    4A 3A 2A 1A 1B 1C 1D 2D 3D 4D 4C 4B 3B 2B 2C 3C

  68. Chik Says:

    I THOUGHT that Jaynestown was wrong when I first read it, but I couldn’t off the top of my head remember which episode the rainstick was from. He got it from a backwater planet while inebriated, and that’s all that really matters. Made me laugh, either way.

  69. Chp Says:

    :o

    Somone see thet math process in the comic?
    Its a white-gray but is easy to see :P

  70. Jonathan Says:

    Wikipedia also locked the article on Popular Culture. Whether that was directly in reponce to xkcd, or just a general precaution against the implosion of the blogosphere, I don’t know.

  71. eitje Says:

    Skyer - check the “about” link above the comic, sometime!

  72. Rebecca Says:

    So Because firefly was mentioned in the comic and the blag, I’m going to go off on a tangent here…

    Anyone seen the new Whedon Project? With Captain Malcolm Reynolds?

    http://www.drhorrible.com

    It looks cool!

    (sorry if we’re not supposed to promote stuff here, but come on. It’s Joss Whedon and Nathan Fillion!)

  73. skittledog Says:

    Heehee, I thought of xkcd when the Captain Hammer comic recommended turning any of your friends who are good at maths and science over to the police. Otherwise, who knows what they’ll do…

    @Not_a_spambot: …okay, now I’m a little scared. And fearing that any minute now the usages of wood in BSG are going to spell out the name of the final Cylon.

  74. DKH Says:

    Of course there’s wood in BSG. There *are* other ships in the fleet.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_miscellaneous_ships_in_Battlestar_Galactica_%282004%29

    (Bad taste using wikipedia here, I know, but the point had to be made)

  75. bozo rebebo Says:

    learn to draw. lots of fancy words, so what. go to my comic site and be prepared to see real art, you know, recognizable images, and concise humor. your dry jokes suck and no one is laughing, mabey your mom tells you you are funny but she’s lying. no one likes a snob who thinks a slide rule is superior to human relations. you can hire me to illustrate your future efforts, If you hire a writer too. good bye reply if you dare.

  76. Azarab Says:

    Haha, reading http://xkcd.com/445/ diagonally down from the first panel to the last panel works pretty well.

  77. Raymond Says:

    Megan. Megan! MEEEEEGan!

  78. Document Says:

    Off-topic: Will bestthing.info be back up in the near future? Searching forums.xkcd.com indicates it was down on July 1, which makes me worry that it’s been down all the time since then.

  79. Tailypoe Says:

    Has anyone here ever considered that 50 $ can educate A child in Afghanistan for a year and that the Average Canadian teen spends 100 $ A week and you can guess it’s mostly on crap.

  80. James Says:

    @ Zombie (who said)

    What gives you any right to dictate what goes on wikipedia other than that moderators tag? Admins and mods on wikipedia are usually the worst form of trolls whose policical bias and means allow them to close off articles of value (I?m look at you locked down aXXo article).

    Admins follow the rules which are set by the community. If an admin doesn’t follow the rules you can report them. If you don’t like the rules; propose that they are changed. I’ guess you were engaged in a dispute over a political article and your view wasn’t accepted so you left. Adding silliness to the articles isn’t allowed, not even on April fools day.

  81. XKCD_fan Says:

    >>bozo rebebo Says: July 10th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
    >>learn to draw. lots of fancy words, so what….your dry jokes suck and no >>one is laughing…no one likes a snob who thinks a slide rule is superior to >>human relations.

    stfu.

  82. Aramis Says:

    Yeah, to the Wikijerk, I think it’s hilarious that you reference a ficticious piece of information in your rude and insulting offhand remark.

    http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/lemmings.asp

    Go Librarians! The Original Search Engine

  83. edward sharp Says:

    ALL Y0ur BASE ARE BELONG TO W0RDPR355

  84. Daring to Reply Says:

    “# bozo rebebo Says:
    July 10th, 2008 at 3:50 pm

    learn to draw. lots of fancy words, so what. go to my comic site and be prepared to see real art, you know, recognizable images, and concise humor. your dry jokes suck and no one is laughing, mabey your mom tells you you are funny but she’s lying. no one likes a snob who thinks a slide rule is superior to human relations. you can hire me to illustrate your future efforts, If you hire a writer too. good bye reply if you dare.”

    1. The essence of the humor is the language, the “fancy words” as you put them. the visual certainly has it’s place, but in xkcd, stick figures would suffice. and do.

    2. i looked up “bozo rebebo”, since you kindly didn’t leave a link to “your comic” if you’re even mr williamson… and what i got was a website where i could buy pieces of art, about flatulence. very classy.

    3. We like him, there are thousands of us. and if you bothered to read xkcd, you’d see that it’s all about human relations.

    4. Don’t be alone at night. we are everywhere

  85. Skyer Says:

    eitje, it only mentions his name in one place on that whole page, and then with no explaination. It doesn’t even tell you it’s a name- given that XKCD is semi-random letters, I wasn’t going to make unwarrented assumptions.

  86. othercriteria Says:

    @Not_a_spambot: “Downloaded” features numerous other references to wood, including the Cylon tree planting campaign and the clothespin/cigarette bomb trigger.

    @DKH: Of course, the botanical ship!

  87. Ooooh... Says:

    You were spoofed by fox trot XD

  88. Hola Says:

    A reward for anyone reading so far down this page:

    1A 1B
    2A 2B 2C
    3A
    4A

    4B
    3B 3C
    2D

    It’s the simple things in life.

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  90. Moser Says:

    @bozo rebebo

    I’m pretty sure this sums up what i need to say:
    http://xkcd.com/438/
    Clearly, you hate people. You can insult a man you don’t know on the internet, but I’m willing to bet you have no interaction with people outside of cyberspace. And no, phone sex hotlines don’t count.
    Also, if you would look at some of the comics, you’ll see plenty of lovely artwork. So next time, do some research.

    You might not read this, you might never come back to this site. But my guess is you will, because this is as close as human interaction as you ever get, and you want to see if anyone has noticed your existence.

    -Summer Glau

  91. melody lopez Says:

    YOU’VE BEEN REFERENCED IN FOXTROT’S SUNDAY COMIC JULY 13TH 2008!

    THUNDERCATS GO!

    http://images.ucomics.com/comics/ft/2008/ft080713.gif

  92. JWC Says:

    ^ Ah, damnit… I was hoping I’d be the first to say that… I should have known better… this is the internet.

  93. Jenni Says:

    I know!!!!!!! I saw the first panel and got so excited and I saw yours!!!!!!!!!!

  94. Bren Says:

    In foxtrot. So made the big time! I like how he states: “With Apologies all around”

    Great stuff!
    -B

  95. Monklin Says:

    Yeah, I saw today’s comics and was excited when I saw XKCD in foxtrot. XD

  96. Ooooh... Says:

    ….everybody else gets fox trot on sundays? I get it on my saturday papers…. lol

    hence, i said it a few posts ago =P

  97. melody lopez Says:

    I provided a link. My information is therefore way better :)

    It’s like a thing of “pics or it didn’t happen”

    I cut out today’s foxtrot :D

  98. Raymond Says:

    I owe you an apology, Mr. Munroe. I’ll stop spamming your comment box with “Megan”, now…

  99. Rosti Says:

    I like that I can now read #445 variations without looking at the comic. I don’t see much use for this skill.

    Incidentally, the counter-clockwise effort of Ian is my favourite thrown up here so far.

  100. asteroid54 Says:

    I think that Wikipedia has a HUGE relevance problem. It’s everywhere in there. New articles on interesting topics are declared “irrelevant” because the admins have never heard of them before.
    And articles written with meta-humour, which always reminded me of Hitchhiker’s Guide (for those who don’t know the book: in contrast to the Encyclopaedia Galactica, Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy is a bit cheaper, it’s not objective at all and it has tha words “DON’T PANIC” written in large, red letters on its frontside), are being made more “neutral” (which basically means ‘more boring style’). There was a time, when articles contained hints how to use certain things, tips, what better not to do, lists, enumerating things in an entertaining order and so on. And the attempts to make a cold, lifeless place out of a wonderful idea make me sick, really.
    xkcd’s “problem with wikipedia” has always been the fact that made Wikipedia that interesting. And now our good old Wiki tries to be like the Encyclopaedia Britannica, and fails.
    There are so many articles which are also at least as useless as knowledge about which episode of which TV series contained what. What’s wrong about one or two useless facts at the end of an article?

  101. Alex Says:

    Well, at least I’m no longer hypnotized by that freakishly perfectly huge head of red hair and cold, dead, ginger stare. That brings you back up to at least 1336.

  102. Divvy Says:

    6 Months ago, my life turned I thought I was ready to be in a relationship, turns out I was. But what I didn’t know was that I wasn’t ready to be alone. I still ain’t. I can’t sleep, I can’t entertain myself or even eat well… I rent way too many movies. I go out a lot and I try to be with people as much as I can because I abso-effing-lutly can’t wrap my head around the concept of being by myself.

    Fact is, I need someone. Someone to be there for me because I cannot love myself enough to be comfortable with being alone in my apartment for more than a short lenght of time. Now, I realize that because my girlfriend is away in spain and I’m reacting the same way I did when my ex-girlfriend and I broke up a year ago.

    So the question that ultimatly pops in my head and impairs my sleepy time is: Do I really love my girlfriend, or do I love the fact that she’s there?

  103. llolla Says:

    hey divvy,
    can you both? “Do I really love my girlfriend, or do I love the fact that she’s there?”.
    why one or the other?
    why is it that when humans in a relationship are tested by geography, loneliness and wanting for that person is concluded to be negative. or unhealthy. I think needing someone for your happiness is natural. the key is that it is not just anyone; for no one else will do. do you miss me because i am not in you life? no, because you don’t know me. and if you did “know me” would i be a person you require for happiness, depends on if you see in me the things you value in your life. and wouldn’t “not missing her” be a bigger impairer of sleepy time?

    lastly, it’s not distance that strains a relationship it’s how you make each other feel about it that does. Miss her with all your heart, but continue to live with all your soul. and for christ’s sake take care of yourself, eat well, excersize, stumble, read, surround yourself with people that love you, you must survive for your sake not hers.

    funny note: my reCaptcha words are “war” and “species”.

  104. Divvy Says:

    llolla said: ”I think needing someone for your happiness is natural. the key is that it is not just anyone; for no one else will do.”

    That is the essence of the question, could someone else do? If I do love her, then no one else will do, but if I love the fact that she (or someone) is there, then will someone else do? I’ve met someone recently that made me doubt having previously ”realized” that what I have is what I want. I think I’m in for a rough ride…

  105. Q Says:

    whats even better than getting em to lock an article is XKCD is on wikipedia

  106. DKH Says:

    Divvy,

    Went through this (and worse) when my ex left a year ago. I agree with llolla that you can do both, but it sounds like you’ve got some ’soul searching’ to do. My suggestion: do what it takes to make yourself into someone who can be happy even if you are alone (personal improvement, an interesting hobby, etc.). You will definitely benefit, and chances are your girlfriend will find even more reason to be attracted to you. Helped me out, anyway…

  107. Celesse Says:

    Hey, Randall, xkcd was featured (kinda) in Foxtrot:

    http://foxtrot.com/ - the comic for 7/13

  108. The Girl with the Sun in Her Eyes Says:

    Wow, today’s xkcd hit straight home. I know what you’re saying, Divvy. My bf has been the same way, since he hasn’t seen me in a few months. I’ve found myself doubting whether he loves me or simply the idea of me - someone there to keep him from feeling alone. I keep telling him he should use the time to finish some video games or pick up a hobby, but he still seems sulky. I know that as soon as we see each other again, I’ll forget all about these nagging feelings and things will seem “normal” again… but it’s kind of unsettling…

    In other news, the Firefly mix-up was forgiven :)

  109. PhoenixM Says:

    To Divvy, et al.:

    Long-distance relationships generally don’t work. Eyes wander, and most of the time at least one of you cheats. Even if neither of you cheats, at least one of you *wants* to cheat by the time all is said and done, and that person ends up resentful toward the other for being the reason that the new romance couldn’t be pursued.

    Friends don’t let friends pursue long-distance relationships.

  110. applmak Says:

    The question is really, what do you commit to doing each day because of your woman? If you can’t think of anything, or you don’t like those things, then that woman is probably not for you.

  111. Madison Says:

    @ Ian: um, isn’t that clockwise, not counter-clockwise?

  112. Ally Says:

    Dear Divvy,

    There are people out there in this world who are better together than apart. Whether that together is with the love of your life or a stranger passing through, is something you’ll need to address. If you’re lucky, you’ll meet someone who is better for being with you and together you will stay. Despite the difference in distance.

    Then again, there are people who prefer to be alone and are annoyed with others and their cloying tendencies.

    Best Wishes,
    Ally

  113. Guilliame Bernard Says:

    J’ai plaisir à insérer les poissons morts dans Randall Munroe’ ; cul de graisse de s. J’ai plaisir également à avoir le sexe avec des poulets.

  114. Tom Says:

    asteroid54: if you want something more like the Hitchhiker’s Guide, you could to try h2g2 (guess where the name comes from…) at http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/. It predates wikipedia by a couple of years, with a vaguely similar premise, but much more in the casual, “here’s some interesting things” style, without bothering with rigorous sourcing or NPOV language.

    Unfortunately, it’s pretty tiny, and rarely updated these days. It was a nice idea, though.

  115. Lelo Says:

    Well, I for one, welcome our xkcd overlord.

  116. Morrock Says:

    So wikipedia is going down, just like when the hitchikers guide was bought by InfiniDim? OH MY GOD VOGONS!!!

  117. Some Random Guy Says:

    Ha! the wikipedia article on deconstruction (mentioned in todays XKCD) has an “in popular culture” section!

  118. Ctta0s Says:

    Anyone wanna add a reference to today’s comic to aforementioned “In popular culture” section (god, the wiki-mods would flip)? :P

  119. Dauthi Says:

    Is anyone an expert in literary criticism? When it’s interpretive and not hard facts you’re dealing with, everyone’s an “expert” if they can put together a coherent argument.

    As for sociology (-scoff-)… If they figure it out in 4 minutes, you’re letting too much snark through. If you treat it seriously, they’ll never catch on.

  120. E Says:

    I can see how deconstruction could be confusing to a person who sees physics and mathematics in an almost purely platonic fashion. You can still be respected in mathematics if you construct a workable model even if you don’t actually understand the difference between a model and reality. On the other hand if you just go around claiming that books only mean exactly literally what is written in them, you will rightly be regarded as a cretin.

  121. D Says:

    There is no such thing as a difference between “model” and “reality” within the field of mathematics. Purely logical structures built from axioms and deductive techniques can’t really be said to correspond neatly to either “model” or “reality”, and even if you do classify them as either, you will have a hard time finding anything that corresponds to the other term.

    Arguing that mathematicians lack a (presumably necessary and relevant) understanding of these concepts only reveals a fundamental lack of understanding of the nature of mathematics.

  122. maia Says:

    Sounds like you’ve pulled a Sokal!
    (see http://www.physics.nyu.edu/sokal/#papers)

  123. An Engineer (of the Female variety) Says:

    I have to say, it only took me about 2 seconds after reading the “Have you tried logarithms” to go “wtf, mate?” Hopefully the 48 seconds plays to the older engineers who have to start paying attention to you rather than themselves (taking 45 seconds) before rejecting the idea.

    In other news, the 445 combinations are awesome. I liked the one from Hola the best. Almost made me laugh out loud. At work. It really *is* the simple things.

  124. An Engineer (of the Female variety) Says:

    Oh. And there’s more wood in BSG than what’s been mentioned. Cloud Nine’s outdoor arena? Kobol’s forests? And one can’t forget that the vision Caprica Six has of the basestar in her head is a big old forest. Kudos to whomever mentioned Adama’s model ship. And aren’t some of the idols (Artemis & Aphrodite are the ones Starbuck has) wood? ;) You don’t even have to dig too deep.

  125. Alek Says:

    To the writer of XKCD:

    Have you seen this XKCD homage? Thanks to his familiarity with the internet scene, he got almost 4,000 contributors in 2 days, I believe. 0_0

    http://seantevis.com/kansas/3000/running-for-office-xkcd-style/

  126. Andrea Says:

    I would just like to say that today I fooled a full blown physicist into thinking I was a member of his field (or at least extremely well informed) for a good two minutes, when we parted ways. He is still none the wiser.

    I’m a journalism major.

    …I’m fairly proud of myself, especially in light of today’s strip.

  127. tobias Says:

    I’d say for the Firefly thing you dropped to 1335, and as for Wordpress… well, I can’t really blame you.

  128. Dor Says:

    if any thing. i think that you were too soft with sociologists.

  129. Coop Says:

    A few Thanksgivings ago I had an hour long conversation with my uncle’s fiance about several authors and their respective novels. We talked about how some of them had gotten better over the years, and others hadn’t hit their prime yet. I complained that one was becoming too experimental and she agreed.

    The reason I keep saying “several authors” is because I had no idea who she was talking about.

  130. NOT YOUR GIRLFRIEND Says:

    you didn’t mention your girlfriend in your latest comic

    what gives

  131. E Says:

    D, sorry, I meant physics (specifically how it relates to mathematics.) Point still stands.

  132. Ghede Says:

    Holy shit. The alt-text was right. I tasted the twelve books on my shelf, and three were scones. I think with a larger sample-size it may approach 1:5.

  133. My Marxist Feminist Dialectic Brings All the Boys to the Yard Says:

    Randy is chaotic neutral! Or incompetent lawful evil. We haven’t decided.

    .:the Oil Mine:.

  134. Jane Says:

    Mr. Munroe, here’s a tip for getting your next article published in PMLA:

    Don’t cite wikipedia.

  135. Mental Magma Says:

    Wordpress article on page/post distinction:
    http://faq.wordpress.com/2006/11/11/a-post-and-a-page/

  136. Pax Says:

    Re: Hurricanes

    EXCELLENT. Speaking as a Gulf Coast resident, I am highly in favor of Hurricane Illinois-Has-It-Too-Easy and Hurricane Where-The-Hell-Is-Bermuda. I would also like to see Tropical Storm Maybe-Now-The-Yankee-Relatives-Will-Stop-Calling-Every-Time-One-Of-These-Things-Gets-Within-A-Hundred-Miles, whose path hugs the coastline from Miami to Halifax before veering off and hitting Greenland (they also have it too easy).

  137. Seth Says:

    For comic #445, a more touching order is 4c 4d 1b 1c 2b 2c, to use more of the comic 4c 4d 1b 1c 2b 2c 4a 3a 2a 1a 3b 3c 2a. Another fun order 4a 3a 2a 1a 1b 1c 1d 2c 2d. Ha I could do this for hours!

  138. Brian Says:

    I’ve always wondered what kind of research you did while making these strips.

  139. Keith Collyer Says:

    Divvy: I cannot love myself enough to be comfortable with being alone in my apartment for more than a short lenght of time.

    I believe that it is a pre-requisite for loving someone else that you must be capable of loving yourself. Ergo (and rather worryingly), if your premise is true, you don’t really love your gf. Sorry

  140. Keith Collyer Says:

    D: There is no such thing as a difference between “model” and “reality” within the field of mathematics.

    This is true in pure mathematics, but not in applied mathematics. Applied maths (just so you know I am a Brit) is inherently about creating models which abstract away some aspects of reality.

  141. DV Says:

    Sorry to hear about your Comic-Con merch getting lost, that totally sucks! I hope you get UPS for every penny, and that con was fun anyway.

  142. Govalant Says:

    Since I loved the “mods” of this strip I took the liberty to crop every panel so they could be turned into gif’s. Unfortunately I don’t have anything to make gifs here but here’s the file.

    http://rapidshare.com/files/132709237/xkcd_445.rar.html

    someone please make A1 B1 A2 B2 A3 3B A4 B4 D1 C2 C3 D2

    btw I used letter for columns and numbers for rows, as everyone else, I think, but I put the column letter first.

  143. Angelastic Says:

    You know, you could still delete the page.

    Oh, and I agree with Alex. It’s a perfectly normal head of hair, but it seems to be one size too large, as if somebody forgot to select all objects when scaling.

    Note to wearer of hair: That was not in any way an insult, and even if it were, it would only be an insult to your hair, which can’t read anyway.

  144. Ghede Says:

    A Black-hat Black-hat’s black hat. Black and hat don’t even look like words to me anymore. They look like patterns.

  145. zeckalpha Says:

    Request for store item: THE hat.

  146. Mark Says:

    Awesome comic today. I love my Gentoo linux and OpenBSD, but if somebody asks me to help them install them, I’m running the other way.

  147. Mike Says:

    Wow. That is an incredibly long number of replies to one post. This is what I truly love about xkcd; not only is the comic itself brilliant and hilarious, the random occasions I have to cross paths with others who read it lead me to other brilliant and hilarious things.

    I just wish I had a longer attention span and/or memory, because by tomorrow I’ll have probably forgotten again that Randall keeps this blog.

  148. The enemy Says:

    Obama, Clinton and Bush are all members of the CFR

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwUvDPwdea8

    I did notice comments were disabled for you “vote for obama” advert.

  149. DMC Says:

    why is there no algorithim written for the #445 where you can start at any panel follow said algorithim and end with halarity. i expected more from fans of this comic.

  150. Travis Says:

    DMC, check the forums.

  151. Travis Says:

    Totally unrelated:
    You make the world a better place. Just wanted to say thanks.

  152. Vladimir Roschjenko Says:

    In my country, we eat gravel!

  153. NOT YOUR GIRLFRIEND Says:

    LOL YES BRAS ARE HARD TO UNDO AMIRIGHT>

    call us when your material isn’t that of a 14 year old with their first girlfriend

  154. Ghede Says:

    For balance, also include COULD and WOULD.

  155. Till Says:

    Couple of remarks:

    1. Oops is still a page

    2. The “vogonization of wikipedia” should become some kind of net meme

    3. Don’t ever make xkcd user-editable

    4. I came here actually because I wanted to inquire if the google counts in todays comic are real, and if there are differences between “… her” and “… him”

  156. Wanker Watson Says:

    Cognac, Armagnac, Burgundy and Beaune,
    This old man came rolling home.

  157. Lucy Says:

    Today’s comic makes me happy, which I think says something bad about me.

  158. Dalin Says:

    Till,
    From my google search…
    “i shouldn’t have kissed her” - 798 results
    “i shouldn’t have kissed him” - 265 results
    Total - 1,063 results

    “i should have kissed her” - 7,590 results
    “I should have kissed him” - 2,000 results
    Total - 9,590 results

    He was close. The point remains intact though.

  159. Till Says:

    @Dalin: thanks!

    So for “her”, we have a 1:9,5 ratio, for “him” it’s 1:7,5. What does that say about the gender matrix in the internets?

  160. Grace Says:

    There is no point in this comment I am about to leave you. I doubt its contents will even be read and I’m perfectly alright with that. It has absolutely no relevance to the text above, or anywhere else, and is more than likely something one might find in a Myspace blog… or Xanga, LiveJournal, GreatestJournal and all that other nonsense (especially Myspace).

    If this is deleted, I wouldn’t be offended either.

    Sleep hasn’t come yet and I needed something to do. When you’re laying awake, you really take notice to how incredibly loud and annoying silence can be and how darkness isn’t so. I can hear the light hum of my computer. The spinning disk of We love Katamari in my PS2 is, I think, the loudest damned thing in the room right now. Earlier was the ceiling fan directly above my bed making a terrible scratching sound on god only knows what. I turned it off. Honestly, for a moment I thought jumping out my bedroom window was the best idea. It was then when I realized I could hear birds.

    My speaker has a florescent blue glow. The mouse, keyboard and monitor currently have a small green light while my computer itself has streams of red glaring at me. My electric blanket is unplugged so the adapter… thing is blinking rapidly (I assume angry for not being plugged) and I can see the store lights of the shopping center across the street. Why must all electronic things have some random light on when it should be off? Craziness…

    Time passes much more slowly when you’re staring at a digital clock with no second counter. I tried counting with it but was always off by 10- 20 seconds. Apparently I don’t know how much a second of time is on my own.

    Hm… laughter. A comic comes to mind. I don’t need to say which one.

    I’ve just read every reply. I learned nothing and don’t really understand what is going on. I didn’t read the post… could be why. Could be that I’m tired and am incapable of cognitive thought.

    Hm… I question the grammar in my last sentence. I don’t know that “am” is necessary. It probably isn’t. I could just delete it, but then I would have typed all this out for nothing and I’d either have to get rid of it, or keep it here without it making any sense to anyone other than me. Hell, I suppose it wouldn’t matter since more than likely, no one will notice this hunk of rambling.

    I’m more awake now then when I started. It isn’t as loud as it once was. I’m thirsty. Actually, I want a freezepop.

    I think with that I will take my leave. I’m really in the mood for a red freezepop right now. I don’t know what the flavor is though. Tastes like red.

    If there is anyone out there who did read this… thank you. Strangers understand more than anyone.

  161. Dan Says:

    there is no subsection “wood in popular culture” in the wood article :(

  162. hi Says:

  163. Michael Says:

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&hs=l5k&q=%22i%27m+glad+i+saw+epic+movie%22+-xkcd&btnG=Search

  164. Pikachu Mariachi Says:

    Just how often do you update the blag? Anyways, it’s funny how this comic made there be “I’m glad I saw Epic Movie” results on google, people who don’t read this comic might think someone actually liked that movie!

    Also, I am the guy who cosplayed as XKCD’s guy with a hat at Comic-Con, still highlight of the show for me.

  165. zeckalpha Says:

    @Grace. I read it all.

  166. Maltrich Says:

    @Grace - Isn’t it weird how freezepops don’t have classifiable flavors? There seriously should be names for artificial flavors that don’t correspond to normal foods. Like the flavors that masquerade as cherry and grape in cough syrups and children’s medicine (and occasionally other places… I ordered a grape snow-cone the other day, and it was THAT “grape.” It was totally strange.)

  167. Xanado Says:

    You know, I’m reading through all of these comments, and several things stick out in my mind.

    1. There are a lot of amazing people out there, and I’m pretty sure most of them read XKCD.

    2. There are a lot of trolls out there, and about 2 of them found there way in here.

    3. Somebody signed their name “Summer Glau” in response to an asshole troll. I can’t help but wonder if that was the celebrity Summer Glau or not. If it is, congratulations, you just became one of my favorite people. At the moment, however, Paris Hilton ranks as my favorite (and that realization blindsided me…).

  168. Flying Bishop Says:

    Unless I am very much mistaken, internet skills are generally expressed in base 36,

    xkcd is the maximum value.

  169. Says: Says: Says:

    I’m glad I read the comic that spawned the blag that referenced “I’m glad I saw Epic Movie”

  170. Xanado Says:

    And every once in a while, you realize how badly you fail…

    -Summer Glau

  171. Schorsch Says:

    Homage, or collaboration?
    http://www.asofterworld.com/index.php?id=338

  172. Xanado Says:

    Payback.

  173. Dalin Says:

    How is signing a trollistic remark with someone elses name payback?
    Don’t you realize that in the grand scheme of things, we just don’t care?
    We don’t come here for trolls. We come here for XKCD.

  174. A Highlander Says:

    Speaking of which, anyone find it odd that today’s comic doesn’t mention raptors?
    I mean, come on, there was even a Jurassic Park reference, but still no raptors!
    I find that interesting.

  175. Zephyr Greene Says:

    Inspired by the above, I have just made myself a shirt (well, drawn on an existing shirt) an odometer-style ticker that is turning over from 1336 to 1337. None of my housemates think this is as awesome as I do. Thanks for the idea!

  176. Pikachu Mariachi Says:

    @Zephyr Greene- Genious!

  177. Zephyr Greene Says:

    @Pikachu Mariachi- Sadly I cannot say the same about you!

  178. neelakantankk Says:

    The page still exists. Are the points still dropping?

  179. mike Says:

    Not to be annoying or anything (well, not TOO annoying), but where it says “turn left on Comstock,” the arrow points right. I was already getting worried, what with all the darkness and the chilling sensation in my spine, but what do I do?

  180. Aaron A. Says:

    Google Maps has always been a bit of a running gag around here, because only very recently did they realize that the Alaska Marine Highway was a ferry system. My guess is that when they sent their Street View teams up here last summer, somebody found himself standing on a dock in the middle of the night.

  181. Dave Says:

    The random page is broken, in rare cases (about 1/461 as of today) it makes you go to http://xkcd.com/404/, which isn’t a comic.

  182. Says: Says: Says:

    West of House
    You are standing in an open field west of a white house, with a boarded front door.
    There is a small mailbox here.

  183. Angelastic Says:

    Dave: I guess that’s deliberate, for the same reason that not having a comic 404 is probably deliberate (though I think there used to be one, because I vaguely remember thinking there shouldn’t be, at the time.) But who knows? Perhaps it was supposed to be left out of the random thingy the way it was left out of the navigation.

  184. Pikachu Mariachi Says:

    @Zephyr Greene- Is that said implicating an insult referencing to a prior comment or action of mine, Mr Greene? Or is that you exppressing your wish to return the compliment being thwarted by not having enough information about me to do so? Which would be a bit odd, since a simple “thanks” would suffice. Either way I am, and will not be, asking for a justification of your reply. I guess I am merely trying to convey my puzzlement over your choice of words to you.

  185. Pikachu Mariachi Says:

    @Pikachu Mariachi- a correction to the previous post,it should read “Either way I am NOT, and will not be…”

  186. Jan Koekepan Says:

    Mathematics is just applied philosophy.

  187. Says: Says: Says:

    The words “mathematics” and “is just” don’t even belong in the same sentence. Unless it’s “Mathematics is just not well understood by the average blogger.” And hey Pikachu, the word is “genius”, not “genious” - that’s what prompted Zephyr’s apparently rude response.

  188. Pikachu Mariachi Says:

    @Says: Says:- Well thanks, I find myself rather embarassed now

  189. Saturno Says:

    Even if the sentence “Mathematics is just applied philosophy” was correct, that statement is nowhere near true.

  190. Kevin Says:

    Is it just me, or does the narrative by Morgan Freeman sound much more like Shepherd Book? As in, “my, my, isn’t that… special.” Seems so to me.

    Either way, I’d love to have Freemanic Paracusia

  191. Heinrich Says:

    You know, I think I’d rather have Shepherd Book narrating things in my head.

  192. Andrew Says:

    Another version of a “In Popular Culture” section

    http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/awfulpedia-babies.php

  193. Says: Says: Says:

    Off topic (was there a topic?)

    I had to laugh at this one from ThinkGeek:

    http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/generic/60f5/?cpg=ab

  194. Xanado Says:

    @Pikachu Mariachi
    http://www.n-genious.com/

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=GLP&q=genious+pikachu+mariachi&btnG=Search

    What makes the entire ordeal better is that you now have a great band name, and you’re the first on a google search for “Genious Pikachu Mariachi”

  195. middaymoon Says:

    About the voting machine strip:

    I love analogies. It makes sense to me. I assume that what you mean, literally speaking, is that the machines shouldn’t have programs complicated enough to get viruses, but should stick to a simple “check here” mentality. Yeah?

    Even if I’m wrong, it’s great. Nicely played, sir.

  196. Madison Says:

    http://graphjam.com/2008/08/15/song-chart-memes-how-stick-figures-spend-their-time/

  197. Angelastic Says:

    @Jan Koekepan: Mathematics is a playground for logic. (No ‘just’ in there, because I agree with what Says: Says: says.)

    In other news, I don’t get why comic 464 calls the move a reverse Bel-Air. What’s reversed about it? But I guess if I really wanted to know the answer, I’d sign up on the forums.

  198. Jondor Says:

    @Angelastic

    The non-reversed Bel-Air is (and/or was) a popular meme in which someone begins telling a story, but partway through I got in one little fight and my mom got scared and said, “You’re moving in with your auntie and uncle in Bel-Air.”

  199. Vladimir Roschjenko Says:

    Hooray! He’s writing about his girlfriend again!

  200. John Hentaifapper Says:

    Now this is a story all about how
    I read a webcomic and it really sucked

  201. Xanado Says:

    @Dalin: It wasn’t the trollistic remark that was payback. It was the “A Softer World” comic being a parody of XKCD that was payback. It even says so on their site. :) It made me happy.

    @John: You’re a meanface.

    @Randall Munroe: When do we get a new blag to post comments in? This one is getting huge… And I seriously have to try the reversed Bel-Air sometime. It makes all other lame breakups seem puny in comparison.

  202. Pikachu Mariachi Says:

    @Xanado- ! You’ve just made my week. Ya know, should Randall have updated the blag with his Comic-con 2008 escapades, I’d also be responsible for the first “XKCD cosplay” result in google. I know I’ve said it before, it just amazes me that such an irelevant mind as mine came up with the idea and decided to execute it when there are such brilliant (seen in this post’s comments section alone) XKCD devotees out there. Also, I will never, ever cease to be proud of that day

  203. Pikachu Mariachi Says:

    correction: There ARE google results for XKCD cosplay, but I have photographic evidence! http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1217314&id=741149046 I don’t know how facebook works as I rarely ever use it, if one of you knows of a better place where I can upload this picture, please do speak your minds

  204. Wanker Watson Says:

    Just like that murder in ‘73

  205. Helmut Ayarzagoitia Says:

    hi hey what the hell is a Reverse Bel AIR?

    thnks

  206. sirleto Says:

    helmut,
    take a look at the xkcd forum discussion to learn about “what is a reverse bel air”

    http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=26522

  207. Sam Says:

    Please sir, make another blog post. I check every day, and I’ve been dissapointed frequently recently.

  208. mojotoad Says:

    Sifting through the amusing dross, I’m left wondering about the batch of comments regarding long distance relationships.

    Nobody can predict what circumstances produce long-distance relationships.

    What works in all relationships, long distance or otherwise, is communication. If you can’t communicate then you’re doomed no matter how often distance goes negative.

    If you can communicate, then great. That’s when you explore whether things are working or not and whether the current storm, irrelevant of distance, can be weathered.

    Cheers,
    Matt

  209. Says: Says: Says:

    If distance goes negative you’re doomed anyway. Same for mass.

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