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		<title>By: Nioxin Reviews</title>
		<link>http://blog.xkcd.com/2009/02/11/a-math-problem-2/comment-page-9/#comment-31303</link>
		<dc:creator>Nioxin Reviews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 17:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lets face it - if you are losing your hair you are losing your social value... balding people are [understand] the target of laughter of people with thick heads of hair
&quot;I may be an exception to the rule but literally days after using Nioxin Shampoo my hair loss literally STOPPED ! No more hair in the bathtub drain. That was 5-6 years ago and I am still enjoying the results! Also, I only used the product for a short while and today I am still not losing hair. I am going to make some more purchases anyways and the shampoo does feel good too. I did not grow back any hair and did not expect to either. I could kiss someone for this product!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lets face it &#8211; if you are losing your hair you are losing your social value&#8230; balding people are [understand] the target of laughter of people with thick heads of hair<br />
&#8220;I may be an exception to the rule but literally days after using Nioxin Shampoo my hair loss literally STOPPED ! No more hair in the bathtub drain. That was 5-6 years ago and I am still enjoying the results! Also, I only used the product for a short while and today I am still not losing hair. I am going to make some more purchases anyways and the shampoo does feel good too. I did not grow back any hair and did not expect to either. I could kiss someone for this product!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://blog.xkcd.com/2009/02/11/a-math-problem-2/comment-page-9/#comment-27848</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 23:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean, Sue&#039;s chance to win a particular turn pair is 1/6. Bob may lose the 1/36 where both roll a six, but just because Sue doesn&#039;t lose it doesn&#039;t mean she gains an extra 1/36. So Sue has 1/6 and Bob has 5/36, or 6/11 and 5/11 after a complete game. You were close though. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean, Sue&#8217;s chance to win a particular turn pair is 1/6. Bob may lose the 1/36 where both roll a six, but just because Sue doesn&#8217;t lose it doesn&#8217;t mean she gains an extra 1/36. So Sue has 1/6 and Bob has 5/36, or 6/11 and 5/11 after a complete game. You were close though. <img src='http://blog.xkcd.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sean Beckett</title>
		<link>http://blog.xkcd.com/2009/02/11/a-math-problem-2/comment-page-9/#comment-27414</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Beckett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 19:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The trick to this puzzle isn&#039;t just that we know Bob wins, it&#039;s also knowing that Sue rolls first, so she has a marginally greater chance of winning.  Consider this game being played in rounds, then each round Sue has first roll and thus a greater chance of winning each round

Suppose now that instead of taking turns to roll the die, they both roll together.  The first to roll a 6 wins, but if they both roll a 6 at the same time, Sue wins by default (to reflect the &#039;Sue rolled first&#039; condition).  The Game is the same, as are the probabilities of each player winning.  Now the maths.....

Both Sue and Bob have an equal chance of winning except for Sue&#039;s extra 1/6 chance by having a &#039;stronger&#039; 6 than Bob.  Sue can win by the 50:50 chance of getting a 6 first, or the 1/6 chance of getting a 6 when Bob does (given Bob has a 6, Sue&#039;s chance of a 6 in that round is 1/6, not 1/36)

So Sue&#039;s chance of winning is (1/6) + (5/6)*(1/2) = 7/12
and Bob&#039;s is (5/6)*(1/2) = 5/12

This shows the bias of Sue rolling first and their equal chance of winning - weighted by 5/6 to make the total probability = 1

As we all know, Bob&#039;s chance of winning in the second round is (5^3)/(6^4) = 125/1296.

So now the conclusion.

The conditional probability for dependant probabilities is P(B&#124;A)=P(A and B)/P(A)

P(Bob winning on 2nd roll &#124; Bob wins) = P(Bob wins AND wins on the second roll) / P(Bob wins)

P(Bob wins AND wins on the 2nd roll) is the same as P(Bob wins on the 2nd roll) because he can&#039;t &#039;lose and win on 2nd roll&#039;.  So this boils down to:

P(Bob wins 2nd roll)/P(Bob wins)
=(125/1296)/(5/12)
=25/108
= approx 0.23

....I think :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trick to this puzzle isn&#8217;t just that we know Bob wins, it&#8217;s also knowing that Sue rolls first, so she has a marginally greater chance of winning.  Consider this game being played in rounds, then each round Sue has first roll and thus a greater chance of winning each round</p>
<p>Suppose now that instead of taking turns to roll the die, they both roll together.  The first to roll a 6 wins, but if they both roll a 6 at the same time, Sue wins by default (to reflect the &#8216;Sue rolled first&#8217; condition).  The Game is the same, as are the probabilities of each player winning.  Now the maths&#8230;..</p>
<p>Both Sue and Bob have an equal chance of winning except for Sue&#8217;s extra 1/6 chance by having a &#8216;stronger&#8217; 6 than Bob.  Sue can win by the 50:50 chance of getting a 6 first, or the 1/6 chance of getting a 6 when Bob does (given Bob has a 6, Sue&#8217;s chance of a 6 in that round is 1/6, not 1/36)</p>
<p>So Sue&#8217;s chance of winning is (1/6) + (5/6)*(1/2) = 7/12<br />
and Bob&#8217;s is (5/6)*(1/2) = 5/12</p>
<p>This shows the bias of Sue rolling first and their equal chance of winning &#8211; weighted by 5/6 to make the total probability = 1</p>
<p>As we all know, Bob&#8217;s chance of winning in the second round is (5^3)/(6^4) = 125/1296.</p>
<p>So now the conclusion.</p>
<p>The conditional probability for dependant probabilities is P(B|A)=P(A and B)/P(A)</p>
<p>P(Bob winning on 2nd roll | Bob wins) = P(Bob wins AND wins on the second roll) / P(Bob wins)</p>
<p>P(Bob wins AND wins on the 2nd roll) is the same as P(Bob wins on the 2nd roll) because he can&#8217;t &#8216;lose and win on 2nd roll&#8217;.  So this boils down to:</p>
<p>P(Bob wins 2nd roll)/P(Bob wins)<br />
=(125/1296)/(5/12)<br />
=25/108<br />
= approx 0.23</p>
<p>&#8230;.I think <img src='http://blog.xkcd.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: hosting</title>
		<link>http://blog.xkcd.com/2009/02/11/a-math-problem-2/comment-page-9/#comment-27005</link>
		<dc:creator>hosting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 16:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2011 13:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very nice this blog thanks admin</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 17:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<link>http://blog.xkcd.com/2009/02/11/a-math-problem-2/comment-page-9/#comment-25749</link>
		<dc:creator>GOOG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 23:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 11:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>reklam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 11:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<link>http://blog.xkcd.com/2009/02/11/a-math-problem-2/comment-page-9/#comment-25644</link>
		<dc:creator>cam mozaik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 11:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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